STAR Protected
STAR Management Meeting
BNL, 50-I-189, at 15:00 (GMT), duration : 01:00
Run 11 preparation meeting #5
1-189, at 19:00 (GMT), duration : 01:00
Attendees: Leve H., Dmitry A., Jérôme L., Wayne B., Gene V.B., Jeff L.
Minutes:
Databases [Dmitry]:
- Conditions collectors started (all except beam information related ones)
- Everything running appears to be OK and status can be checked from web
- Beam info needs cdev, provided by C-AD once their operations get going for the Run (also includes magnetic field setting; expect data around the time we turn on the STAR magnet)
- Absence of this data means RunLog does not finalize runs and information is not migrated to Offline, but this is expected to be OK for now for anyone doing online-only tests (requested to post a note to rts-hn about this)
- No migration issues expected, but TPC anode voltage recording practices need to be ironed out in the context of the Run 11 data (discuss with Maxim)
- Online DBs flushed
- As expected, a few failed links and missing web pages were noted (by users too) and fixed
- Once cdev is running, will be ready for turn on / testing of FastOffline
ShiftLog [Leve]:
- As expected, excluded from and not affected by DB flush
- Manual updated for instructions on changing run status (may receive further review & changes from Jerome)
Online nodes [Wayne]:
- AFS has been stable on the newer evp machine since last Friday
- Jeff's been using the machine (and AFS) without incident
- Will likely switch OnlinePlots back to this machine (from evp2, the older machine) next week
- Documentation requested for switching between these machines
- Replacement of dean at the stage of OS installation on new hardware
- Timeline for replacement should be well before Run starts, as disk space on the new machine has been requested for online use
- Trigger commissioning is a high priority part of the request for online node resources (Wayne will contact Pibero directly)
- Nothing to report on OS upgrades
Online QA - jevp demo [Jeff]:
- Code
- Subsystems have an xxxBuilder class (e.g. tpcBuilder, eemcBuilder, etc.) which inherits from a jevp base class for plots
- Plot objects can have multiple histograms added to them, as well as other graphical objects like lines and circles (as long as they are of some "component" type?)
- Configuration
- Editor allows hierarchical arrangement of plots into tabs and sub-tabs, under larger Sets (e.g. Shift, 2009, ESMD)
- Features drag & drop for re-arrangement
- Tabs can have collective properties for all plots underneath (such as setting all to have the same maximum)
- Plots can have individual properties (such as log y scale)
- Editor allows hierarchical arrangement of plots into tabs and sub-tabs, under larger Sets (e.g. Shift, 2009, ESMD)
- Running
- One server starts up several builders as separate processes
- Data is sent to the builders from a file or an event pool
- Presenter runs separately to display plots
- Similar basic look & feel to current OnlinePlots presenter
- Clicking on a plot brings up a reference side-by-side
- Drag & drop to add new reference, or select a different reference from panel of choices
- Suggested: tag references with run from which they're made, and timestamp (already includes a comment)
- Deleting references is simple, but not so simple as to be done accidentally
- Mild concerns to be wary of reference bloat and organization as things evolve at the experiment (including collision species/energies change)
- PDFs generated and uploaded to RunLog DB for each Set
- Include table of contents
- Concerns of space this will consume on the onldb server and redundancy of plots
- Run 10 PDFs used more than half the available disk space, and it is reasonable to expect a doubling (or more) of the required space for Run 11
- Wayne & Dmitry will assess the current storage on onldb [post-meeting statement that space may be fine; follow up next week]
- Requirements still need to be more accurately defined
- Will depend on what gets axed/kept from review by subsystems & trigger board
- Would be helped by real data, but that's a bit late
Next week: demo of Offline QA for AutoQA with reference histograms [Gene]
Welcome and Overview
Reference
Speaker : Flemming Videbaek
Talk time : 09:15, Duration : 00:30
Review of Past Issues and Current Understanding
Reference
Talk time : 15:20, Duration : 00:20
Run 11 preparation meeting #4
1-189, at 19:00 (GMT), duration : 01:00
Minutes:
Attendees:Dmitry A., Leve H., Matt A., Wayne B., Jeff L., Jérôme L., G. Van Buren
Databases [Dmitry]:
- Online backup now using the new NAS system
- Daily backup of all three ports with a retention time of 7 days
- Currently have 2+ TB of space, which is probably more than enough for even 14 days retention
- Potential problem with permissions due to NFS mount and different user IDs on different systems, but not a problem presently
- Email alerts of problems from NAS goes to Wayne & Dmitry
- Flush of online DBs not yet done
- Reasoning is that still in testing at STAR and this can add up to significant amount of data
- ...but we're not sure which test data people will want to keep associated to Run 11
- Decision made to go forward with the flush and not continue waiting for testing to get further along
- NB: ShiftLog (and some other) DBs and tables are skipped in the flush; ShiftLog is already recording for Run 11
- Shift Signup GUI has been re-written
- Demo shown
- Some details of new features still need implementation (working with Jérôme)
- All old features are in place; could replace old codes at any time (pending bug checks)
- Deployment schedule not fixed by any deadlines
- Isolated nodes for FastOffline in Run 11
- Not in place, but Dmitry will write up a config file for this
ShiftLog [Leve]:
- Nothing until new web server
- No progress on new webserver
Online nodes [Wayne & Matt]:
- OS upgrades:
- FTPC and PMDsc done/replaced
- To be done: Bond, EMCsc (coordinate with users), STARUtilities (coordinate with C-AD), EMC01, Beatrice, L3display (Jeff notes the need for QT4 on this node for display programs)
- FUSE now working on all linux pool nodes
- gcc standardized on all linux pool nodes
- Recent rise in instability of the linux pool nodes: several have halted and/or needed rebooted in the past two weeks
- Previous solution of disabling USB controller not helpful for this (that solution is still in effect)
- No obvious environmental changes, but seems likely given the pattern
- These nodes are ~5.5 years old (hard to believe they would show age problems within a couple weeks of each other)
- Similar nodes are in use for offline DBs and not showing problems (located in BCF)
- Newer EVP machine experiencing AFS issues
- Access given to John McCarthy to help diagnose
- OnlinePlots will be switched to use old EVP machine for the time being (Gene & Jeff will arrange)
HFT management meeting
BNL room 2-84, at 14:30 (GMT), duration : 00:00
HFT management face-to-face meeting
Main theme: Cost and Schedule consolidation, requirements for CD2/3, design material, preparations for upcoming reviews and documentation, technical progress.
Time | Talk | Presenter |
---|---|---|
09:15 | Welcome and Overview ( 00:30 ) 1 file | Flemming Videbaek |
09:45 | WBS Cost and schedule overview-open issues ( 00:45 ) 0 files | Sarah Morgan |
10:30 | WBS, BOE,… for PXL ( 00:45 ) 1 file | Leo Greiner |
11:15 | WBS, BOE,… for IST ( 00:45 ) 1 file | Gerrit van Nieuwenhuizen (Bernd Surrow) |
12:00 | Lunch break ( 00:00 ) 0 files | |
13:30 | SSD WBS, BOE,… ( 00:45 ) 2 files | Howard Matis |
14:15 | Integration WBS, BOE,… ( 00:45 ) 0 files | Dana Beavis |
15:00 | Break ( 00:15 ) 0 files | |
15:15 | Software WBS, technical progress ( 00:45 ) 3 files | Spiros Margetis |
16:00 | PXL Technical progress ( 00:20 ) 1 file | Howard Wieman |
16:20 | PXL technical ( 00:20 ) 1 file | Leo Greiner |
16:40 | IST technical ( 00:20 ) 0 files | Gerrit van Nieuwenhuizen |
17:00 | SSD technical ( 00:20 ) 1 file | Micheal LeVine |
17:20 | Integration Technical ( 00:20 ) 1 file | Eric Anderssen |
17:40 | Adjourn ( 00:00 ) 0 files |
Run 11 preparation meeting #3
1-189, at 19:00 (GMT), duration : 01:00
Attendees: Wayne B., Leve H., Gene V.B., Matt A.
Leve:
- ShiftLog exercised (successfully tried loading large 4+MB images)
- Awaiting new online web server
- No current action items regarding changing shift status after lat week's meeting
Matt:
- Windows 2000 upgrades to XP; involves replacing some computers:
- ftpctemp, emcsc, pmdsc replacements exist, but need configured before switch
- Timescale: mid-December
- OS upgrades on emc01, beatrice, l3display
- l3display has GUI issues (independent of the old large display screen issue brought up a couple weeks ago by Wayne); hope that the OS update to SL53 will resolve the GUI problems
- Timescale: next week (make sure systems are running again before the long weekend next week, perhaps time beatrice update with any plans by EMC people to be away)
- It would be of interest to know whether the l3display can support the STAR environment (e.g. AGS, gcc, etc.)
Wayne:
- Online linux pool gcc issue: an artifact of a known problem not corrected in Matt's installation script.
- A few nodes already fixed, pne node known to need fixing, and a few more need checked (low priority)
- FUSE also stopped working on a few nodes during some of these re-installs (due to some package dependencies)
- Ganglia metric to list number of users logged in now turned on for STAR gateways; will also add metric to the online linux pool machines
Gene:
- OnlinePlots running stably on newer EVP server
- FMS group expressed interest in changing some OnlinePlots; they were directed to the codes
- Contacts for components of online QA [node:19794 "posted"]
AOB:
- Next meeting in two weeks (holiday next week)
Alignment
Reference
Speaker : Igor Alekseev ( ITEP )
Talk time : 13:00, Duration : 00:10
Alignement from data.
Luminosity monitoring
Updated on Sat, 2010-11-13 08:49 by spinka. Originally created by sichterm on 2010-11-12 14:21.Reference
Speaker : Hal Spinka
Talk time : 16:00, Duration : 00:25
Run 11 preparation meeting #2
1-189, at 19:00 (GMT), duration : 01:00
Attendees: Jeff L., Jérôme L., Wayne B., Gene V.B., Leve H., Dmitry A.
Minutes:
jevp : the new online QA package
- Deployment intended before run starts
- Will run concurrently with OnlinePlots package on the evp.starp machine
- That machine is believed, at this point, to be sufficiently up to the task
- Will run concurrently with OnlinePlots package on the evp.starp machine
- Infrastructure ready at 90% (old adage: last 10% takes 90% of the time)
- Using QtRoot
- New architecture has 3 components
- server: repository for plots
- builder: stand-alone process for reading event pool, filling hists, and ships plots of them to the server in a ROOT container class (StJEvpPlotSet)
- StJevpPlotSet contains the histograms, plus lines and texts, and axis scales
- display: it asks the server for the plots it wants to present at any given time (and tabs); not the content of other plots
- All components communicate over ethernet and can be on separate machines
- Multiple builder instances will all read the same files simultaneously
- Suggestion to possibly leverage other available online nodes
- Would need to mount evp.starp: /a
- Won't pursue until a need is shown
- Deployed all existing plots to server (999 exactly!)
- Divided into 17 builders: generic, daq, hlt, l3, each subsystem
- Main features:
- Easily configured plotting
- There is an xml configuration file, plus an editor for managing the xml file
- Hierarchy of tabs and plots easily changed (directory-like arrangement)
- Top level is shift, HLT, other expert sets
- Same plot can be in more than one place
- Control over rows and columns, log scaling (part of plot definition, but over-ridable in the configuration), plot maxima and minima (setting can span multiple plots)
- Display comes up with shift histograms by default
- Reference histogram capability
- Clicking on a hist brings up the data and reference histograms (and possible old references)
- This page allows one to set the data as the reference along with a comment
- Discussion of expanding this capability for automated analysis and alerts
- Analytic comparisons be done in the builder (that's where the analysis happens)
- Suggestions to keep this in mind as programming continues
- Easily configured plotting
- Future Planned Features:
- Conditional suppression of unwanted plots
- Distinction between not-in-run, and broken
- Some plots shown only if some state exists
- Fast trigger stream: possible send all trigger data (not DAQ data) to the event pool
- Monitors from within the package (e.g. how long does each builder take)
- Needs to be coordinated in the server
- Conditional suppression of unwanted plots
- Additional To-Do tasks:
- Run stop/start isn't well-coordinated yet (when to clear histograms for start of a new run; codes need more understanding of state)
- Basic shift histogram group needs to be set-up
- Plan: present a set of plots to the trigger board for feedback & input
- Need testing with real data for each subsystem for possible code-copying mistakes
- Need extended operation testing (e.g. does it have memory leaks? eventually crashes?)
- Already some concerns about ownership of objects in the plotting code (an issue we had with the OnlinePlots package)
- Plan to run display component locally on rts01
- Needs STAR environment to do so
- Interest in a second display screen
- Interest in upgrading rts01 hardware
- Wayne agreed to spec out new hardware
- Plan to learn as we go (from problems during the Run) of what are the optimal ways to present data which make the problem(s) evident
- Plan for now is to demo the jevp package in 3 weeks time
Other discussion topics:
- Rotations of DBs done for new year, but not all hyperlinks have been rotated
- Online disk space usage needs: users need to be polled (e.g. spin QA programs and data), and who the users are needs to be determined
- Solaris phase out: systems (slow controls and trigger) are not in S&C control; admins need to be convinced that support is gone and catastrophes loom (e.g. ITD can disconnect machines from the network)
- Switch to using dbbak for daily DB backups not yet done
- DB flush planned for Monday, and that should be it until online daemons start up (awaits EPICS ramp up)
- Jérôme mentioned workflow tests are in order for QA-RunLog-ShiftLog interconnections
- Discussion of RTS/ShiftLeader status editing/updating (continued post-meeting):
- Conclusion seemed to be that the current set-up is what is needed, but that edits/updates should be in the hands of shift leaders. This policy should be made very clear and known.
Other issues
Updated on Fri, 2010-11-12 15:15. Originally created by wlodek on 2010-11-09 10:47.Reference
Speaker : Wlodek Guryn + all ( BNL )
Talk time : 11:45, Duration : 00:45
B - slope status
Updated on Sat, 2010-11-13 09:39 by tomob. Originally created by wlodek on 2010-11-09 10:44.Reference
Speaker : Tomek Obrebski ( Politechnika Warszawska (WUT) )
Talk time : 11:00, Duration : 00:45
Status and progress of A_N paper
Updated on Sat, 2010-11-13 09:48 by pile. Originally created by wlodek on 2010-11-09 10:39.Reference
Speaker : J.H. Lee, Kin Yip, Phil Pile ( BNL )
Talk time : 09:00, Duration : 00:45
TOF trigger and summary presentation
Updated on Sat, 2010-11-13 21:30. Originally created by gorbunov on 2010-11-09 09:32.Reference
Speaker : Yury Gorbunov ( Creighton University )
Talk time : 14:00, Duration : 00:30
Analysis status
Updated on Sat, 2010-11-13 11:26 by ramdebbe. Originally created by gorbunov on 2010-11-09 09:31.Reference
Speaker : Ramiro Debbe ( BNL )
Talk time : 15:00, Duration : 00:40
Phi analysis
Updated on Sat, 2010-11-20 21:47. Originally created by gorbunov on 2010-11-09 09:28.Reference
Speaker : Jonathan Bruckman ( Creighton University )
Talk time : 14:30, Duration : 00:30